<even>  Nothing is arbitrary, that's the scam, that's what makes it great
<uboy>  how could we even
<uboy>  we must make editing decisions
<even>  yes for concision only
<uboy>  that's why it can only work to a degree.. i.e. a scam i guess
<uboy>  so are we giving up?
<even>  no sideways is not defeatist
<uboy>  abandoning the ship in dry dock?
<even>  discussing gravity again?
<uboy>  but we admit our reservations about the process?
<even>  revealing it is a beautiful thing?
<even>  or lazy?
<uboy>  there we are again... saying what we mean or intend