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<even> we need some kind of direction i suppose
<even> otherwise it gets too confusing maybe
<uboy> so, are we dialoguing or simulating or is there a difference?
<even> but randomm is lateral sorta?
<even> no difference
<even> who believes anything these days
<uboy> no, need some direction
<uboy> yes
<even> dir good
<even> pattern of flow
<uboy> but we believe in the process 
<uboy> right?
<uboy> at some level, it must be worthwhile